gay marriage?

[Maria Munro]

Okay thsi is getting offensive so lets calm down, thats an order!

[litchfield]

Yes Ma'am sorry ma'am.

[palmer]

In what context? And I was under the impression this was an out of character board. Could you underline what in particular is offensive so we can avoid that area of discussion?

[Commander J. MacGyver]

In defence of Christianaty, We don't condem homosexuals. we just don't realy like that ppl are having sex: A out of merage & B with the same sex. W arent forcing anything, we are simply asking that if they must be unified, that they not use the word merage.

[palmer]

Exactly, its a christian word and they have no right to claim it, its like called something grey blue, sure you can still call it blue, but it is clearly not blue, but grey, does that make sense to anyone other then myself?

They can go ahead and call it marriage (against us), but it certainly will not be marriage.

[Commander J. MacGyver]

I sorta understand your analagy. but its they best thing that I can think of also. wait! it depents on what hue and shaid of blue. In fact you can drop the grey. Calling Homosexual uniting, marige is like calling Navy blue, Baby Blue. They are bot Blue but they are clearly not the same thing.

[palmer]

Ok, Sorry, but that doesn't make sense to me, im sure its a perfectly good analagy... but still heh, dont get it.

Our point is, why dont they go make there own ritual anyway? Why would they want something that is strictly hetrosexual?

[litchfield]

Because they want to be like everyone else and they have every right to.

I hope you turn out Gay conor, see what you say then.

[Rudger Mcvanlen]

*Sticks "cool it" signs in conor and litches heads*

hey you two...play nice...=P

and i think they should be allowed to marry aslong as they dont marry under god.

[palmer]

*staps neck puts head into blender u fuktard*

well they can't marry under god, god won't allow it, although I do not have a true belief, for those of us who do, they know that if he does exist, he wouldn't let it happen, and marriage is man and woman by definition, infact this debate was decided before it even started because, as stated previously, the definition doesn't include same sexs, only opposite sex couples.

Therefore, there is no point debating it unless it is universally passed as a new definiton for the same word, which means it wont even have the same meaning it once had!

This, is diluting marriage, as its original meaning has already been sledged by people like myself who do not want to get married under god (hey, no offence big guy). I think even thats too far and 'we' shouldn't be allowed to be married, but then again, how can u prove I'm not christian? It's a bit harder for a man to dress up as a woman or woman as a man.

[Commander J. MacGyver]

Conor for a non beliver your good at defending it.
You sure your not a closet religius guy?

[palmer]

Ok its true! nah, I am just a traditionalist, I mean I think people who believe in god shouldn't be bagged about it, it should be us who are bagged for being non-belivers, I just can't get my head around it, I mean I love the old testiment, and there are some parts of the new one tht I dont mind, and hey, jesus was a good guy, this might offend you and i'm sorry, but I cannot believe jesus was the mesiah, im not jewish (by religion) either, but if there was another form of religion, just the old testiment without the jewish stuff, I might believe in that, I wouldn't claim to be an aethiest, thats for sure

but no, its a christian ritual, and you guys have every right to say 'hands off, our ritual our rules' I personally think its pretty generous to even allow non-religious people to do it, but as I have said before, its easier to disguise a non-believer as a christian, than it is to disguise ones gender.

[Commander J. MacGyver]

Well like my Religion teachers said: You dont have to belive that Jesus was the mesiah. You DO however have to understand the ther was a real dude named Jesus and billions of ppl folowed him. He did talk about being nice to oneanother and he did die on a cross(with btw is a verry cruel way to die, guilty or not) and that 3 days later the guy's body was not in its burial cave thingy.
Thos are pruvent facts, rather dificult to dis prove. Now here is wear religion comes in for this dude. hes is the son of God(our creator) He preformed miricals(way more cool than this Chris Angel fellow) he willingly died for us on the cross(Like i said b4, thats not exsatly a walk in the park) and he came back to life 3 days later(sep he wasent a zombie or anything)

Ok that was off topic but I just had to say it.

[palmer]

Well yes, see, the son of god stuff I can't buy either, I mean sure, he was a great guy, a real guy too, died on a cross all of that stuff is not in dispute here, I mean most of the many things written in the bible are true granted. But I'm just not willing to fully embrace 'everything' that comes with being a christian, I mean I lived in a church for ten years, which I calculated to be about 10 times longer than any person goes to chruch, assuming they live to be one hundred and went every sunday... but the supernatural part, and other parts rule me out as being a true christian, because I just dont have the real belief.

But this is not about the belief system/s of religion, or my personal religious beliefs, or anyonte elses. It is about my belief and Nicks belief, that the right to who can undertake this ancient ritual, be decided by christians as a whole, not by who ever damn well wants it.

Next, you'll be saying that its animal cruelty to not allow animals to get married. Thats too far, and this is also certainly; too far.