Rudger Mcvanlen
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Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Apr 1, 2007 19:51:35 GMT -5
still theres nothing wrong with gay people haveing kids, plus most hetrosexuals suck at raiseing kids... lets see gangs, school, everything kids do these days...
so personaly from what i have seen theres nothing wrong with haveing two dads, or two moms. though its kinda weird to me because how a guy can like another guy is beyond me...truthfully must of us areint very good looking and theres alot more good looking chicks. It suprizes me that all woman areint gay lol. but my point is that they have every right to have kids to, and it is evil to leave a kid in the care of the US foster system or in one of those 3ed world nations when a gay person could adopt them...
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Post by martog on Apr 1, 2007 22:05:29 GMT -5
Well your wrong rudger, you usuall reply to what people say not just go against it, you raise no more points than you did before, usless banter is what that is. This isn't its making a point.
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Post by vampireamz on Apr 4, 2007 7:06:32 GMT -5
To be honest guys i think it's up to them if they wanna get married. The public can't make that choice for them. So i guess it is up to them if they want to do it and very happy with eacother and love eachother very much i say let them!
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Post by palmer on Apr 4, 2007 17:05:31 GMT -5
Well yeah, we've been saying that as well, but they can't be married, just as much as they cant have a child, its disgraceful to think that something like that could even be considered let alone allowed, marriage is for a man and womanl. full stop. if they want unity, then they can make there own damn ritual, how could you disagree with that?
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Apr 5, 2007 17:03:34 GMT -5
something i just though about though... marriage isint under god. marriage is called marriage everywhere includeing wicans call it marriage. thus the arguements about Gay people not being able to marry because of god is false, as not all marriage is under god. mine wont be, but i will still be married.
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Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Apr 5, 2007 17:47:24 GMT -5
The problem is that they wana get maried in a church and the church can't.
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Post by palmer on Apr 6, 2007 3:18:04 GMT -5
Thats a good point, a very good point Nick! They most certainly cannot be allowed to 'unify' in a church, ok, I too will not be under god when I get married (if I do, its a really bad financial investment), but I will still marry a woman, and it would not be against any of the other traditions, I mean I'll probably get a preist to do it anyway, just for petes sake (; ) get it pete?).
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Apr 7, 2007 13:43:43 GMT -5
meh true, im just saying they CAN be married, witch is the point of this thread. so we all agree?
Gay people can marry just not in a church.
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Post by litchfield on Apr 7, 2007 14:09:23 GMT -5
Thats a bit unfair...why not?
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Post by palmer on Apr 8, 2007 4:34:34 GMT -5
No way! they cannot marry and they certainly cant marry in a church, I have said it is wrong to not offer them some other ritual that is similar, but tredding, no stomping on marriage by dirtying it with same sex non-sense, hey nothing wrong with same sex relations, but same sex marriage is out of the question.
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Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Apr 8, 2007 22:14:36 GMT -5
No saying they can marry implies the use of the word marige. They can unit.
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Post by litchfield on Apr 9, 2007 9:58:50 GMT -5
They can marry, the can mary in a frucen church, its not fair to deny them that.
'God' wouldn't want you to segregate people just becuase theyre gay.
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Post by palmer on Apr 10, 2007 0:45:27 GMT -5
Actually, if you read the bible litch, god wants you to kill them or smite them or something, I mean the cool god would want you too, the one from the old testiment, the otherone might not care, marriage must only be for a man and a woman, or a woman and a man depending on... same-sex couples gotta get their own gig. I think Nicks the only sane person here the rest of you need to get a bit more of an education, some of you excluded ofcourse (a.k.a. ur over 18)
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Apr 10, 2007 0:57:10 GMT -5
lol Conor you have ihnored my earlyer point witch negates the whole marrige is only between and man and a woman... ITS NOT!!!! it only says that... IN THE BIBLE!!!!!! nowhere else, and if it dos thats because its in a christian nation and thus the laws have been tainted by christianitys belifes. marrige is the uniting of two PEOPLE not a man and a woman only.
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Post by palmer on Apr 10, 2007 2:07:27 GMT -5
Please give me your dictionary definition of that mine claim; "the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. " reference.dictionary.comSo you see, it is the union of a man and a woman, anything else simply isn't marriage, whether you like it or not. Know one thing we all agree on is that they are entitled to a ritual. However some of us haven't yet realised that that ritual isn't marriage, infact the term 'gay marriage' is an oxymoron come to think of it.
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