What kinda Trekkie doesn't like TOS

[martog]

Alright fes up, TOS is the greatest, in equal tie (by my standards_ with TNG, as they are equally the best two, with pros and cons with both shows), and ofcourse people have preferences to either show, but how is it, as a trekkie, you can deny liking TOS, after seeing several that is.

[litchfield]

I admit that i didn't like TOS until i started getting that neu mag and i think its quite good.

Also TNG is the best second voyager then TOS then DS9 then Enterprise.

Also in the enterprise series did u see the one where they introduced the borg and the last lines were like:

"Looks like we just held off the invasion to...what...the 24th century-i thought that was a brilliant episode ;D

[Rudger Mcvanlen]

For me its
1:VOY
2:DS9
3:TOS
4:TNG
5:ENT

[Fleet Admiral Kal Dutton]

For me as a series each show has its good and bads points and of course anything after the motion pictures is going to be far better to look at. But for a certain quality you feel when you watch it, an undying sentimental value. And without it the rest, this site and everything that goes along would not exist. And for me that makes it the best show. Now I only hope the new modern special effects added version comes to the UK soon. TOS is on all the time thanks to sci fi channel but it not the new redone ones. That I really want to see, the great stories will be complimented by real looking effects.
As far as all the "TNG" era ones I enjoy and love all. Enterprise I unlike some liked but not loved. However in the final two seasons, mainly the last (bar the final episode) I feel it greatly improved. However I do feel it should have gotten rid of all things that made it seems far to advanced for the time and to some extent ruined some of the Star Trek history. It was an ok to good series but such things like Photon Torpedoes, the design of the ship, the Borg, the ferangi should have been left to the TNG era.

[martog]

You know, I have to say all Star Treks have their own pros and cons, just some have more cons than others, I think ENT could've been a really great concept, and some of the episodes were brilliant, but as Karl pointed out, putting in ideas before they have occured, or chaning things like, pips to stipes to pips again, or no stardrive to stardrive to no stardrive again, that sorta thing kinda made it less plausible.

But back to main debate, TOS is the Original, and possibly the best Science Fiction, let alone Star Trek Series, ever made, some of the ideas that were in that show, that were thought of forty years ago, such as anti-matter, and some spacial concepts are still used today, not to mention it was the first, so if you grew up on that, you would have a certain element of sentiment for the show... *flash back to 1999*

The first Star Trek episode I ever remember watching was with my father, is was the TOS episode called 'Arena'. To this day I still remember all these fantastic little details, like the genade launcher, the strong yet slow gorn, and the mercy that Kirk shows to the Gorn right at the end...

It really is a show that cannot be critisized... I mean you may not like the show, but if your a star trek fan, you 'must' respect it

[deepspace8472]

The Redone TOS has come out in Canada. It's great, although the only truly noticable thing are the Enterprise exterior fly bys and space scenes. It's really cool though.

Enterprise is not that bad.

[lpeters]

To be honest, I am gonna be doing a lot of ducking and diving because a Bat'leth is gonna be flying in my direction.

1: TNG
2: VOY
3: DS9
4: ENT
5: TOS

Before the last couple of seasons, ENT was easily last but now I think it has greatly improved and is now above TOS and Martog, I am gonna go and hide behind that bulkhead over there.

I must say I, in friendly conversation, greatly disliked TOS over the newer ones. It feels outdated and overall greatly behind the more modern TNG/VOY/DS9 series with ENT as a modern old series, I feel that is improving by the episode.

That's my opinion and I am going to disappear; such is the custom of a disagreement with a Kling-on.

[Fleet Admiral Kal Dutton]

Is improving?? You do know its cancelled right?

[lpeters]

Yeah but I havn't seen them all yet. As I watch it, it improves more and more.