Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 21, 2007 18:29:20 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 21, 2007 18:29:20 GMT -5
atheist, gods compleatly imposable...for reasons explained in "Atheism:the case against god". witch picks apart and tears down cathics and cristians in a way that scienificly proves god wrong. Whos scholars consider the book the bigest threat to religion in history. the book picks the religions defences apart, picks their belife in god apart and finds it matches the discription of the mentily ill. and totaly takes religion down. It has converted more away from religion then anything else i have ever heard of, and made every atheist that reads it more confadent in their disbelive in god. a must read for everyone, atheist or not its a good read and is garentied to have even the most devoted questioning their belive, trust me i have seen it reduce christians from "belive in god or burn in hell" to "Wow i never thought about it that way..god dosint make sence after all". so just rent it at your library
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Religon
Jan 21, 2007 22:07:54 GMT -5
Post by deepspace8472 on Jan 21, 2007 22:07:54 GMT -5
Personally, I'm an Atheist. All of it seems so... inconsistent. Why did so much 'magical' stuff happen before globalization and education?
Religion has also caused alot of animosity and pain. Look at the state of Fundamentalism today, or the Spanish Inquisition...
And Religion has evolved so much. In early times, people worshipped the Sun, then they worshiped the elements, and then they made gods, manifestations of a 'divinity.' Then a monotheistic sentiment came about. Back 3000 years ago, people believed in multiple god and goddesses, as strongly (if not more) than the General populace does today. Now we dismiss that as myth. Who's to say that we won't be worshipping as Polytheists in 1000 years?
My overall view of God, and the Afterlife is that it is an emotional safeguard, to comfort people. If people didn't think there was an afterlife to go to after death, dying would be the only things on their minds. They need to know there is a God, because they need something to fill in the gap, to give a meaning and explanation for life and it's different forms.
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Religon
Jan 22, 2007 20:37:32 GMT -5
Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Jan 22, 2007 20:37:32 GMT -5
Ther is a smal diforence between Chatholic and Christian. One is a religion the other a denomination Get it right or dont say it! I hate it when ppl say I'm Christion, cause i know ther thinking the Protesten denomination. I'm Roman Catholic! Ether put an option for Christian or one for Christion and another for Catholic but not both!
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 22, 2007 21:14:30 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 22, 2007 21:14:30 GMT -5
notice i said christian OR catholic, i simply put the to in the same grouping as i did with wicans, pagans ect ect, as their belifes are similar, you both belive in god and christ, and im well aware that they are not exactly the same, but i didint have enough room to list everyone seperate...
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Religon
Jan 22, 2007 21:31:01 GMT -5
Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Jan 22, 2007 21:31:01 GMT -5
Well its the bloody same thing so just say Christians!
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 22, 2007 23:07:43 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 22, 2007 23:07:43 GMT -5
dude... your makeing it biger then it is... cool your jets man...
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 9:03:47 GMT -5
Post by Fleet Admiral Kal Dutton on Jan 23, 2007 9:03:47 GMT -5
hahahha some poeple mite get offended you put wiccan and native american in the same option lmao
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 13:49:34 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 23, 2007 13:49:34 GMT -5
ya, they are closer related then you think, my moms wican...and everything people think wicans are is wrong. But crazy people are attracted to it witch is what gives it a bad name. Wicans are actualy nice people, unlike christian nations who ignored their "gods" commandments and killed people wican nations actualy followed their laws, but then christians came in and killed them all... hence why i dont like christians...they have killed to many just for beliveing in other things.
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 15:13:14 GMT -5
Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Jan 23, 2007 15:13:14 GMT -5
Hey buddie, ya Christians wear stupid. But we have ONE God! and belive it or not we wear a minoraty also. the Pagan Romans condemed us. now i'm not saying that the crusaides or the renisence wear our greates moments. But good did come from it, it humbled(we realised that what we wear doing was stupid, and against God's will) and the crusaides updated the european medical knolede by hundreds of years fater like ten crusaids. So Pagans(ansesters of the wican) Condemed us. Burnt us to the staek. Crusified us. Tortured us. and entertained themselfse by our death. but you dont see me hating your mother or anyother wiacans. Infack Harry Potter(witches are wican) is acsepted by the Pope. The Chatholic leader. put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 15:51:28 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 23, 2007 15:51:28 GMT -5
actualy pagans include 1000s of religions, and romans were a sect of pagans yes, they were the worst i would say...did you think christians were the only ones they picked on? trust me your just the most recorded cause one of their leaders was sick, he was bad to everybody he didint like. but wicans used to be treated the same by the christians, aka the salam witch trails, known to wicans as the "burning ages" well some wicans at least. and harry potter uses the name witch but they are far from real witchs...they do not have wonds and they dont cast spells the same way, and they do not fly brooms...lol, and the pope dosint condem it but look at the other religions that dont follow the pope but still belive in god, they dont like wicans at all. and how many times have i heard this when i say i dont belive in god, or when my mom says shes a wican "Ohh dont you worship satan?" or "but you will go to hell!" or my fav "Repent and take the lords love into you" to witch i allways say "Look man..i dont like guys that way" hehehe, god i love doing that... of course that last one is only over the net. like this one guy, man he was nuts, with the "repent or burn in hell!" and stuff like that... realy man when will fanatics learn that thats not how you convert people lol. and to clear this up incase any of you think this... wicans dont worship satan!!! they worship the moon the earth and the sun, mostly the earth. and they dont "worship" it persay, its more beliveing in it.
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 17:26:24 GMT -5
Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Jan 23, 2007 17:26:24 GMT -5
Christian wear prosicuted for hundres of years by about 12 emporores so dont say it was one.
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 18:37:00 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Jan 23, 2007 18:37:00 GMT -5
true, but the worst was the "that one" and he was as bad to everybody he didint like... and your makeing it sound like 2 things to me. 1 christians were treated badly in the begining witch justifys how horrid they were for the 1000 years they had tons of controll in, and becuse they were tortured its ok that they held the humen race back dureing that time by practicly declairing science a sin and killing every scientist they got their hands on.
and 2 christians were the only group that was killed becuse they had differint belives.
well to number 2 might i remind you that the christians have killed millions if you combine the crusades and the salam witch trails and many wars ofer the years that they said wereint holy wars but you would have to be a dork to see that religion was part of why the wars were made, aka the current war and WW2, the current war would yes be going on with or without religion as a factor but its a nice part of it, and WW2 would never have happend without religion. hell if the world had never had religion 100s of wars would never have happend, and mabey we would have 8 billion people on earth and we would have coloneys in space by now. i say that becuse without christianity science would have advanced alot faster in 800-1600 and we may have been as advanced now as we will be in 2200. my point against religion is the world would be better without it, not now but earlyer. peple who were christians never would have died for one thing. and we wouldint be argueing right now! everyone would be nicer and lunatics wouldint be preaching on TV!! lol hell mabey we would have a 1 world nation and have met our first aliens...who knows... but my belive is the world would totaly kick ass if religion had never existed...
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Religon
Jan 23, 2007 19:43:29 GMT -5
Post by Commander J. MacGyver on Jan 23, 2007 19:43:29 GMT -5
w/e i'm just not going to care
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Rudger Mcvanlen
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Religon
Mar 7, 2007 20:52:38 GMT -5
Post by Rudger Mcvanlen on Mar 7, 2007 20:52:38 GMT -5
also, even though i compleatly disagree with your belives i still think your cool=P
i think i may be the first person to say that on the net ever...lol
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Religon
Mar 8, 2007 13:18:53 GMT -5
Post by Maria Munro on Mar 8, 2007 13:18:53 GMT -5
I agree some people, especially old bible bashers relate wican with satanism. To the point that teh pentagram is meant to be the sign of lucifer. Ummm no its not.
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